"Ah," Vander sounded as he was given the odds. Those weren't the worst, which meant that version of Shimmer he had taken was as much of a kick to the teeth as he was experiencing in terms of ongoing withdrawal. It did force him to consider how many couldn't suppress the urge and ruined themselves in the early days; he understood the strangle hold necessary for power in the undercity, consolidating power for a faux united front, but how many people died while feeling like the most powerful people in the undercity?

Although finally, his self-suppression for control since the Day of Ash - and even before where he targeted precisely instead - came in handy. Perhaps this 'weakness' of his had value for not tearing her head right off her shoulders when they first met. "Did you try the version that I did way back in the day before all the refinement? Because the urges last longer than they should." His personal critique which had no bearing as clearly there had been considerable refinement.

"I remember everything. Is that not supposed to happen?" Vander being a potential odd case for Shimmer use still hadn't occurred to him.